Monday, May 4, 2009

Pre-Adamite Creationism and the Age of the Earth

Not all creationists are young earth creationists. There are two types of old earth creationists: the pre-Adamites and what I call the Long Agers. Some theistic evolutionists believe in the pre-Adamite theory and/or Long Age theory, but for purposes of this piece, I will consider these terms to refer to creationists only. (And by creationist I mean someone who believes that God created the “kinds” mentioned in Genesis 1 [including man] separately, so that they don’t have a common ancestor with any other “kind” and that these are the only “kinds” that exist today.) By the “Long Age theory” I mean the popular theory that some or all of the six days were long ages of millions or even billions of years. The pre-Adamite theory is different than this.

Like the Long Age theory, the pre-Adamite theory is an attempt to (partially) reconcile the Bible with an evolutionist’s version of the fossil record and radiometric dating methods. It gives the creationist less territory to defend without trivializing sin by giving up the concept that God did not make the world a place of disease, death, and suffering.

The pre-Adamite theory starts with the assumption that there was a long (unmentioned and indefinite) age in between Genesis 1:1 and verse two. This is what young earth creationists call the “gap theory”. Unlike some theistic evolutionists, however, the pre-Adamite does not believe that living things were macro-evolving during that time, or at least not into what we see today. But Satan was cast out (to the earth) during this time and reeked havoc there. They believe that God made the earth and the creatures within it perfect in the beginning, but Satan’s rebellion (not Adam’s sin) resulted in the deaths of animals which can be seen in the fossil record. Then God wiped out any remaining life and started all over again with the new creation which starts in Genesis 1:2. Some pre-Adamites even believe that God even created human beings in the pre-Adamite age.

But the only Biblical argument for this theory that I have heard is that God did not create the earth “without form” (see verse 2) because the phrase “in vain” in Isaiah 45:18 is the same Hebrew word as “without form” in Genesis 1:2. Even if I were to concede that God did not create the earth “without form”, there is no biblical or scientific proof that it didn’t become that way within a day.

The idea of men being created before Adam is contradicted by 1 Corinthians 15:45 which calls him “the first man”. Furthermore, Romans 5:12 says, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” This contradicts the idea that Satan, in a sinful state, entered the earth and caused death before Adam.

The very fact that God names the Day and Night in Genesis 1:5 should be enough to prove that this really is the first day. Why would God do this then if millions of days had already before passed? The fact that he calls it “the first day” naturally leads one to believe that there were none before it.

But if this is not enough, here is the clincher. Exodus 20:11 says, “For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.” If this is referring to the six days of Genesis 1 (which is what one would be most naturally inclined to believe) then it is clear that Genesis 1:1 must be included in this six day period. But to cover all bases, let us assume that the six days in Exodus 20:11 are not the six days in Genesis 1, but rather a previous creation. Then it would not be right to say that God created “all that in them is” during these six days because not everything in the earth, heavens, and seas would be created until the “second creation”.

Now I will briefly respond to the scientific arguments.

First, there could have been plenty of room in the Ark for the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs which God sent to Noah to be taken on the Ark could have been young specimens. Furthermore, I don’t recall anything in the Bible which says that no “kinds” died out in between the Fall and the Flood.

As for radiometric dating, this is based on many, many a priori assumptions. These include that the rate of decay has always been the same and that there were no “daughter” products in the material when God created it. Potassium-argon and uranium-lead dating methods ALWAYS give long dates. The carbon-14 dating method ALWAYS gives short dates. So the evolutionary scientists must decide whether or not something is very old beforehand, and then they select the most desirable method based on their a priori decision. There has been a least one example where rock with a known short age (50 years) was dated to be 1.2 million years old. Carbon-14 does give dates somewhat longer than 6000 years, but this can be explained by the assumption that God did not create the earth with any C-14 in it or allow it to be formed on earth in the beginning. This assumption is logical since C-14 can cause mutations. (C-14 is formed in the atmosphere when beta rays strike nitrogen molecules. The Bible says that the earth has shields (Psalm 47:9) which could have been stronger in the beginning. The “Canopy Theory” says that an atmospheric water vapor layer helped to shield the earth before the Flood.) Finally, even if the earth is very old, one must consider that the pre-Adamite theory might not be the only possible biblically consistent theory that could explain it.

In conclusion, though the pre-Adamite theory does not contradict the important doctrine that God does not create death, disease, or pain (but rather they are consequences of sin), it is nonetheless unscriptural. Furthermore, the proposition that the events of Genesis 1:1 happened on the same day as those of the next four verses does not contradict science. The Long Age theory is not so easy to disprove, so I will discuss this, God willing, in some future post.

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5 Comments:

At October 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM , Blogger JS Clark said...

Matt...firstly. You have a ton of blog branches =) Not a critcism, just humourous. I have a few myself and would have more if I could find the time.

You give a fairly fair treatment of the pre-adamite theories, though that is the first I've heard of it in name. I would fall in there with exceptions: I see no macro evolution because as Romans says there was no death in the world before man's sin, and I have no problem with the "gap" taking place in the 24 hour first day that the light was created.

I find your reference to the Shabbat compelling as evidence that Gen 1 is indeed the first six days and not a recreation.

But I put before you the same question that is before me.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

The context is God asking Job where he was when...etc... It seems to suggest that when the Sun appeared the Angels shouted for joy, yet there is no mention of angelic creation. So if Angels are not mentioned in creation then there must be either a time of creation that is not mentioned or a dimension of creation that is not recorded.

To what scope is the first day? Does it mean God does not have another universe somewhere else that is older or younger?

What I'm asking is does Genesis 1 say all heavens in all the universes or does it imply our 'local' heavens? I'm asking. I don't know how else to resolve the exclusion of angelic beings from the creation account. The creation account them MUST NOT include all creation, so there is creation outside of it's account.

Even if you include their creation in "God created the heavens and the earth" then that still means the angels would have been present for there to be some conflict/marring of the Earth.

I guess I'm not arguing for an additional length of time, but rather against the assumption that we've put creation into a box.

So kind of a useless assertion, just thinking out loud with another perspective. "Splitting hairs" as you say.

 
At November 3, 2010 at 7:48 PM , Blogger Matt said...

Thanks for the comment.

I don't think that there is much we can conclude about the creation of the angels. And I don't think that this poses a problem for young earth creationism.

About Job 38:7 - Even though I usually interpret Scripture strictly literally, I would point out that it is a standard Hebrew practice to repeat the same or similar idea in poetry. Thus, the "morning stars" is may be equivalent to "Sons of God" (which, as you implied is equivalent to angels). Compare Revelation 9:1 and following with Job 1:6. This gets more complicated when you start talking about Jesus being the the bright and Morning Star, but Satan is also called the morning star in Isaiah 14:12 (in most any version but the KJV). But I'll save that discussion for future post.

I am thinking that you meant to say "It seems to suggest that when the EARTH appeared the Angels shouted for joy" since it is the earth that is explicitly mentioned in the context, not the Sun, unless you think the Sun is one of the "morning stars" and you are taking it literally. But even if we conclude that (at least some of) the angels were created before the creation of the earth, this does not necessarily mean that the angels marred the earth at that time. As far as I can see, there is no conclusive scriptural evidence that Satan did not become a fallen angel anytime from before the creation of the earth to one minute before he tempted Eve in the form of a serpent. (Even the idea that the serpent is Satan would be somewhat in question, if it were not for a couple of passages in Revelation.)

As for the idea that the angels were part of another heaven (or universe) not part of the "heavens and the earth", this is possible, but I don't think its provable. The Hebrew word for heaven(s) (#8064) in Genesis 1:1 has plural form which is the same as it is Exodus 20:11, strongly implying that it talking about the same thing.

 
At November 4, 2010 at 9:25 PM , Blogger JS Clark said...

Fair enough, I'm not trying to argue anything conclusive merely "I wonder where this piece goes." Angels may or may not have had something to do with a marring that may or may not have occurred, some things hint to me, but nothing conclusive. I wouldn't build any foundational doctrine on it.

In Job I was being imprecise, I did mean to say sun but I meant it more as a generic star. And it is possible that Sons of God is a peotic allusion to stars, but earlier uses in Job seem to suggest otherwise.

Good discussion.

 
At March 24, 2014 at 1:31 AM , Blogger Unknown said...

Just curious as to why people think that the earth is only 6,000 years old.

Silly thing to even think.

First. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Now tell me how you can date this verse.

Why does genesis 1:2. Say that the earth was without form and void and The spirit of God hovered over the surface of the waters.

This proves God did not create the waters in the Six days of recreation. In which of the six days did God create air, water dirt, and elements. On which day.

The earth was already here before day one even began. It has been here for an untold millions of years.
Maybe billions.

God created the earth to be inhabited in six days from a state of chaos

he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited:
Isaiah 45:18.

We cannot date the earth. It's very very old. I believe lucifer had dominion over the earth in ages past before Adam. He tried to overthrow God. The world and it's inhabitants were judged. And that the earth was destroyed and brought to a state of chaos. Then God gave man dominion over earth. Even though man foolishly gave it back to satan at the tree.

 
At April 20, 2014 at 8:24 PM , Blogger Matt said...

to matthew meinecke

"Now tell me how you can date this verse."

Again, Exodus 20:11. What other six day period could it be talking about? If there were another billions of years before the six days of Genesis 1, then that would mean that God created more stuff then. But Exodus 20:11 says "all" in one six day period. You can't get around it.

Dates in the genealogies can be added up to prove that the Earth is approximately 6000 years old.

"Why does genesis 1:2. Say that the earth was without form and void and The spirit of God hovered over the surface of the waters.

This proves God did not create the waters in the Six days of recreation. In which of the six days did God create air, water dirt, and elements. On which day. "
God created the Earth without form first out of water(2 Peter 3:5) The firmament is the atmosphere, which contains air that was formed on day 2. Then he formed the land and divided the waters so that the land would be on the surface and would be dried on the third day. The Bible doesn't name each and every element of the periodic table, so we do not know when each one was created. But this doesn't invalidate the conclusions which are clear from Genesis 1 and Exodus 20:11.

"The earth was already here before day one even began. It has been here for an untold millions of years. "

You make the above statement without either biblical or scientific proof and you fail to refute the arguments that I have already given. Isaiah 45:18 does not contradict any of my conclusions.

 

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